(; GM[1]US[Brought to you by No Name Go Server] CoPyright[ This game was played on the No Name Go Server Permission to reproduce this game is given.] GN[gaoqi-kiyo(B) NNGS] EV[None] RE[W+Time] PW[gaoqi]WR[1k*] PB[kiyo]BR[3k ] PC[NNGS Worldwide: nngs.cosmic.org 9696] DT[1997-02-11] SZ[19]TM[600]KM[0.5] HA[2]AB[pd][dp] ;W[pp];B[dd];W[fc];B[df];W[qf];B[nd];W[lc];B[ic];W[le];B[nf];W[ie] ;B[hd];W[ee];B[de];W[he];B[fd];W[ed];B[gc];W[dc];B[fb];W[ec];B[ge];W[gf] ;B[kb];W[lb];B[kd];W[ld];B[ke]C[ gaoqi 1k*: try to escape is always better ] ;W[kc]C[ gaoqi 1k*: this kind of play, live also no good ] ;B[jd];W[kf];B[jf];W[jg];B[jb];W[jc];B[id];W[hb];B[ib];W[lg];B[ha]C[ chumly 9k : B H14 interesting ] ;W[dh];B[cg];W[ch];B[cc]C[ ems NR : B bad shape gaoqi 1k*: c13 = coward move ] ;W[cb];B[bd];W[bb];B[eg];W[fg];B[eh]C[ gaoqi 1k*: ? ’ÁD10 22 ] ;W[dj];B[fh];W[fe];B[gd];W[gh];B[fj];W[dl];B[bh];W[bi];B[bf]C[ feanor 8k : black c11 interesting feanor 8k : ( instead of that) ] ;W[gi];B[ej]C[ gaoqi 1k*: g11 more impt ] ;W[hk]C[ ems NR : c11 captured by c 10 ] ;B[mf];W[lf]C[ feanor 8k : then b10, connect under, no eye gaoqi 1k*: n14 not much meaning gaoqi 1k*: use as threat better ] ;B[fl];W[hm];B[fn];W[cn];B[co];W[dn]C[ ems NR : B runs dame ] ;B[qh]C[ gaoqi 1k*: w h9 and h7 exchanges with b f8 and f6... gaoqi 1k*: w gained ] ;W[qc];B[qd];W[rd];B[re];W[rb];B[sd];W[rc];B[qe]C[ feanor 8k : o18 connects now ] ;W[nb];B[qn];W[pm];B[pn]C[ feanor 8k : i've never seen this joseki before... ] ;W[on]C[ ems NR : not a joseki ] ;B[oo];W[po];B[om];W[nn]C[ feanor 8k : nod.... couldn't think what it was good for for the life of me ] ;B[pl];W[nm];B[ol];W[mk];B[nj]C[ ems NR : N9 is a big point ] ;W[mh];B[nh]C[ ems NR : center becomes huge feanor 8k : aji of that white stone again... he's getting plenty of use out of that sucker =) ] ;W[nk];B[oj]C[ ems NR : B n5 might be confusing ] ;W[ho]C[ feanor 8k : if white o5, where would you go with the black stone...? ] ;B[hq]C[ feanor 8k : o3 looks kinda of fun...? ] ;W[iq];B[ir];W[jq];B[jr];W[lq]C[ feanor 8k : white invasion at c3 still works, correct? ] ;B[kq];W[kp];B[kr]C[ ems NR : w L3 instead of M3 was better kiyo 3k : I can't see what you say ] ;W[lr];B[lp];W[ko];B[qq];W[pq];B[pr];W[or];B[rr];W[ps]C[ ems NR : if LL corner will be B's territory, B leads ] ;B[qs];W[qr]C[ ems NR : R1 bad, should be R2 feanor 8k : if r2, then white s4? ] ;B[mr];W[mq];B[pr]C[ CharleyM 3d : ll corner is no one's territory now ] ;W[do];B[cp];W[qr]C[ ems NR : n 10 ? CharleyM 3d : then b p3 ] ;B[hg]C[ feanor 8k : that upper left black group has 2 eyes because of threats, correct? ] ;W[hf]C[ feanor 8k : ack, white group ] ;B[pr];W[gq];B[gp];W[hp];B[hr];W[qr];B[fq];W[rp];B[pr];W[os];B[ro];W[qp]C[ CharleyM 3d : do you mean h19 group feanor? ] ;B[bn] ;) ---